No more flying, no more meat or no more new clothes?
I no longer eat animal products. Now I’m a vegetarian, before that I was a vegetarian for ten years. I didn’t realize that with milk and cheese I was also contributing to animal suffering. In Uruguay, where the meat industry is important, you hear that eating meat is a good thing. The Netherlands, a dairy industry, says milk and cheese keep you healthy. It’s just what makes money. The cover for me was the documentary Earthlings. Since I know how much suffering this causes, being a vegetarian no longer matters. No problem with not kicking the dog, right? I only travel to visit my family in Uruguay. The last time was in 2012. Maybe next time I’ll go by boat! “
As long as children are starving to death, it is not legal to own more than 5 million
Optimistic or pessimistic?
Factory farming, devastated Amazon, overconsumption: all this touches me. I think we should ban some things. One: millionaires. As long as children starve to death, it is not legal to own more than 5 million. Second: advertising and selling Things that are unnecessary for people. And the third: eating animals. Sometimes I think I see a change. But the group that still shop in Action every day is also growing. The corona crisis has made it more real: How not managers, but garbage collectors and nurses keep society going. If Corona has not changed us, so what will happen?”
Carolina Trujillo (Montevideo, Uruguay, 1970) She came to the Netherlands when she was five years old with her mother and sister. Her parents were members of the Tupamaros resistance movement during the military dictatorship (1973-1985). She attended high school in Uruguay and studied in the Netherlands. Carolina wrote six books, including The return of Lupe Garcia, for which she won a BNG New Literature Award and was nominated for an AKO Literature Award. In 2019 she won the Jan Hanlo Essay Award for her collection Girls in lost time. her latest book, Messi and Suarez leaked conversations, Featured in the spring of 2022. In a column in NRC Handelsblad she writes weekly on sports and current affairs.
Idealist or entrepreneur?
“Can’t you be idealistic and bold? Perhaps the real contradiction is: an idealist or a capitalist. I have the luxury of being able to do what I stand behind. I was afraid I was in my own Norwegian Refugee Council– The column had to write positively about the sport, but they just want me to say what I think. For example, I can yell about sports millionaires like Messi and Federer, who donate to ‘Corona’ and put it around the clock – while withdrawing a lot of money from the community. I earn a little from my books, but you shouldn’t do it for money either. Business writing is not for me. I should be able to say what I want. If it doesn’t produce enough, I’ll stand behind the bar.”
Discussing sensitive topics like racism at the dinner table or not harassing others with it?
“It depends. If people are still traveling and saying, ‘You worked hard, you earned it,’ I think: You can also go to Texel, right? But I don’t talk to them about it, I don’t like their pictures in my mind at the most. I speak frankly about eating animals I refuse meals where meat is served I also discuss sexism Look at sports Girls have to play soccer with softball and do gymnastics in shiny suits and make up Weird It’s funny to discuss discrimination on The basis of sex is easier than discussing eating animals. People feel very attacked when you mention it. In my column I retreat when my jokes threaten to get too bold. In novels I let my characters speak freely. That’s the great thing about fiction: You can hide behind your characters.”
Cross Feminism and Validity: Terms Everyone Should Know or Have No Idea What I’m Talking About?
Maybe we should know them, but I don’t know them. The words we use are definitely important, every writer should care about that. I write “white” not “white” for example. And I really get annoyed when people say “America” when they mean “the United States”. None of my friends do that anymore. I come from a political background: my parents were part of the resistance during the dictatorship. At school I was a student union member, but I don’t have that politician anymore. I put salt on each snail. I’m 50 now, and I’m a bit more moderate.”
This interview previously appeared in OneWorld in May 2020.
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