Collision of Rutger Bregmann and Head of Pig Breeding at Op1

Did you give your dog an extra pat yesterday, or did you give your cat a little more tasty treat? Good thing, because yesterday was Animal Day (and don’t eat Animal Day). Talk shows also talked a lot about animals, like in 1. Writer and historian Rutger Bergmann sat there, seated (literally and figuratively) in front of Linda Ferret, president of the Pig Producers Organization. The two got into a fight.

In addition to Animal Day, yesterday also marked the 25th anniversary of pigs in need, so the organization called for an end to factory farming in the Netherlands in various newspapers. According to the organization, the switch to organic livestock farming would happen today, not tomorrow. But is this possible?

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Rutger Bergmann – author of books, among others Most people are good And the Free money for everyone – He believes in the necessity of returning to the farmer as it is described in children’s books. “There you see pigs with curly tails rooting in the mud, and chickens with a lot of space. But the reality of factory farming is completely different,” begins Bergman. “If we look at pigs, we see that 99 percent of pigs never get out of it. 99 percent of pigs that have that happy curly tail, but it’s burnt out.” Farmers do this, says Bergman, or else the animals would bite each other in the tail, because they are so close together.

Bregman also believes that more and more people feel that factory farming is “not OK” and that things have to change. “We want to make a sound that ordinary Dutch people are decreasing. A recent study by Kieskompas showed that 60 per cent of Dutch people want a ban on factory farming, although I think the ban itself goes a long way.” According to the writer, the three stars in animal protection meet the guidelines he and the organization set.

“I only hear the tires, like huge booths’

A little later in the broadcast, it was about the cultivators, and they were also having a hard time. Bergmann: “If you ask yourself: ‘Why is the number of farmers in the Netherlands decreasing every year? “So the answer is not that there’s an angry vegan club kicking them out of the country. No, it’s the increase in size, this intensification.” Then the author cites some examples. “A lot of farmers can no longer keep up with this increase in size, those huge stables. We now have 999 huge stables in the Netherlands.” But Feret does not like this kind of language.

“I only hear tires all the time,” she begins. “Huge stables, misery, I find that really annoying. We really do keep our animals in a very good way. The whole world comes here to see how we are conserving our animals and here suggests we are just dealing with expansion.” Bregman interrupted it and said that it was true that there were fewer farmers each year. “They can’t compete in that massive competition,” he says. “I’d rather have more farmers, all working on a smaller scale.”

Verrett then also touches on the research cited above, which shows that more than half of the Netherlands wants a ban on factory farming. “I think this is a study from 2021, the researchers were all vegan, and I’m allowed to do that,” she says. Bergman, shaking his head, “No, it’s an electoral compass.” Verrett: “It doesn’t matter, but I’m curious about the number of respondents.” Remember her own research, conducted by an independent marketing agency, which showed that 95 percent of the Dutch eat meat and plan to continue to do so. “5 percent is not, and this is allowed. And why do other people eat meat? Because it is tasty and healthy.”

“Mr. Bregman doesn’t want pigs to eat meat anyway.”

Verrett addresses Bregman again: “I’m not against organic at all. I also represent organic pig farmers here. But we see that market share is not growing.” She wants to continue her story, but Bergman interrupts her. “Do you think it’s normal to-“, he didn’t go further, as Ferrett indicates that she also wanted to “finish her story.” She also says that pig breeders can impose something on people, but in the end people make their own choice.

Bregman continues his previous question: “Do you think it’s normal that 99 percent of pigs in the Netherlands never go out? Do you think it’s normal that 99 percent of pigs have curly tails that burn? Is it normal that all those pigs live on concrete, and that they They can’t get into a puddle of mud, and can’t they act normally?” Verrett: “Mr. Bregman doesn’t want us to raise pigs to eat meat at all. We’ll never agree on that, animal welfare will never be enough for Mr. Bregman, because Mr. Bregman He doesn’t want pigs to eat meat anyway.”

in 1– Lieutenant Colonel Giovanca Ustiana jumps in between: “What do you want to say to him?” Verrett: “Let everyone choose. I give it to all the Dutch. Make a conscious decision, but come see how we keep the animals at the pig farmers and have a conversation.” in 1Lieutenant-Colonel Teges Brinkmann Bergmann: “And what do you say?” “I think it is important for people to really know how to raise pigs, as well as chickens and cows. We often keep telling ourselves a myth.”

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