Umberto Tan slides politely Ungehoord Nederland and Dilan Yeşilgöz – Joop

Miss piggySeptember 18. 2022-18: 58

I appreciate Humberto that he usually manages to discuss these kinds of issues intelligently and with charm. But he, like many, does not fully understand what the “anti-wake” movement means. August Hans den Boef did just that in his last opinion. The problem is not with those committed to more equality, to fighting injustice or for the less fortunate. There can be nothing against that. But the problem is that the vocal part on the left is very dogmatic, obnoxious and intolerant. Anti-freedom, anti-Western, anti-science. And sometimes also crazy in terms of ideas. For ON, yes, this is a dismal club. I don’t see much on the call to report, but a sound counter, both left and right. Finally, the black Ariel in the mermaid. There is also more than pure racism going on here. For years now, fans of movies and TV series have been sad to see the quality of Hollywood entertainment deteriorate. In many products, the focus seems to be more on versatility and exclusivity than on something that delivers quality. Or at least I had fun. There is a kind of hypocrisy in this debate. CIS representatives should suddenly not be allowed to play gay or transgender roles. Bryan Cranston has been criticized for playing a disabled person. Black Ariel might be fine, but please stop whining above.

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JohnVKRSeptember 19. 2022 – 8:37

“The problem is not with those committed to more equality, to the fight against injustice or for the less fortunate. There can be nothing against that. But the problem is that the vociferous part on the left is very dogmatic, hateful and intolerant.” Her problem is, she has to say that she has trouble with people who are intolerant, resentful, and intolerant. But then you will not resist the awake and righteous. You have hateful and intolerant people everywhere, and that’s separate from waking up, a word that only the far right uses to suppress people who are fighting injustice and for equality and inclusion. And when it comes to fighting social injustice or (for example) fighting climate change: never been to VVD, this fight has always been (mostly) started by movements on the left side of the political spectrum. Which Dylan Yeşilkoz’s party always joins only when there is no other choice.

Miss piggy

Miss piggySeptember 19. 2022-13: 03

Hmm, I don’t want to break your imagination, but the term “wake up” is not only used by the far right to frustrate people. Woke also has a bad reputation among the political center as much of the left. This is exactly the crux of the problem. When you hear the term “wake up”, you might think of activism for equality and so forth, however, most people in the West usually think of “wake up” as urgency, humorless, know-it-all, indifferently mentioned in every comment Justification of racism and discrimination on the basis of sex. or any other religion. See also. Whereas, most people with right-wing conservative views have nothing to do with depression or at all with ON depression (even Joost Eerdmans noted that he never wanted to sit there). A large part of the left does not yet realize the extent of the damage, or at least disturbing, to the views of “Woke”.

stickkickhuysen

stickkickhuysenSeptember 19. 2022-14: 06

A large part of the left does not yet realize the extent of the damage, or at least disturbing, to the views of “Woke”. Harmful and annoying are very different things. But you beautifully sum up why this howl about “waking up” is so exaggerated. Because it is a word whose meaning is not clear. I am not talking here explicitly about the liberation movements that call for equal rights and integration. Of course they have my support. Can you give some examples of the names of these groups and the actions they take so that we don’t harm/disturb them with the term “wake up” in this discussion?

satya

satyaSeptember 19. 2022-14: 21

“And where most people who have proper conservation views have little or nothing to do with depression ON (even Joost Eerdmans noted that he never wanted to sit there).” While he has no problem with the thinking that goes with us, he wouldn’t have run behind the fvd. The fact that people are trying to reject Yes 21 as usual is very disturbing. “Wok also has a bad reputation in the political center as a large part of the left.” Meanwhile, every liberation movement is called “Wake Up” and this is actually the influence of extremists such as Nanninga, Erdmann and Bosma. Well humorless, but that doesn’t justify the current smear campaign against the liberation movements.

JohnVKR

JohnVKRSeptember 19. 2022-18: 15

Miss Piggy “Many on the left are still not fully aware of the harmful, or at least disturbing, views of ‘Woke’.” Like Minister Dylan Yeşilkoz, you pretend that Wok is a well-organised movement. This is what makes it so strange. There is no organization called Woke and I can’t even name people who claim to be awake (other than Humberto Tan, as we saw above). Woke is the label now affixed by both the right and the far right to everyone who struggles against social injustice. The Minister of Justice who sees people fighting social injustice as a threat to the rule of law should be removed from her post immediately.

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