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Eva Genk after the production of the documentaries eva world She looks differently at motherhood and the problems mothers face, she tells NU.nl. In this three-part series, Jenk discusses important issues in mothers’ lives: the physical problems a woman experiences during and after childbirth, the guilt she feels as a working mother and sex after childbirth.

First and foremost: The series’ approach that Jinek devised is that motherhood is so beautiful, but it still has some taboos in it. She says she learned a lot. Starting with the problems that many women face during pregnancy. For example, one in five women experiences childbirth as trauma, a quarter of them experience urinary loss, and epidural anesthesia in the Netherlands is not self-explanatory, as is pelvic floor treatment.

The choice of motherhood theme was clear for 43-year-old Jinek, who not only did her late-night show for RTL Jenk But space has also been made to make documentaries for Videoland.

eva world There is a first feat of weapons. “The big change in my life in the past 3.5 years is that I’ve become a working mother. It’s a topic that interests me every day.”

Guilt as a working mom is a big topic for your gene that you want to highlight. “One scientist I interviewed explained to me how it works: We see the job of taking care of a father as making money for his family, and the job of taking care of a mother as taking care of her children. So if a working father doesn’t leave his sick child, he can make it happen, everyone thinks this is perfectly normal. Mother She can’t come and bring her baby, many people see her as selfish and cold.”

Journalist and presenter Liesbeth Staats’ anecdote in the documentary is striking: her husband forgets to put a dentist’s appointment on the agenda. Staats later comes with her baby for a new appointment with the dentist, who obviously resents her for not making the appointment. When Stats says her husband forgot to report it, the dentist unfreezes her and forgives her for everything. Because you shouldn’t burden a working dad with a dentist appointment at all, right?

“I spend a lot of time and energy on feeling guilty”

“It’s hard to measure, but everyone feels it. Growing up, I’ve learned that I have to make sure that I’m financially independent and that my work should be fun. It’s not a hobby and it’s what my family lives for. I also share these cultural values, how working mothers are viewed in Holland. They put pressure on me. It annoys me. I spend a lot of time and energy in this guilt. You hear it all your life and that defines how you see yourself and your role is to watch.”

Jinek doesn’t just want to show the problems young mothers face. She says she is a “very pragmatic personality” and therefore wants to see how she can be resolved.

For example, a scholar tells us in the documentary that when an employer treats young fathers in the same way as young mothers, mothers’ feelings of guilt are diminished. “I find that very useful, you can do something with it. So there are already concrete solutions. Let’s move towards that.”

Motherhood is portrayed on Instagram as a wonderful thing and it’s clear that a mum can walk outside fresh and fun for three days after giving birth, but Jenk soon realizes that’s not the case for many mums.

“I was in my forties when I became a mother and then you think that with every experience of your life you have a sense of security. I thought: Soon I will be walking with my son Pax in a pram glamorous Outside and then life begins again as it was. It was the opposite with me: I got sick after giving birth, which made me very sick, I could barely walk and this shocked me. I know myself as someone who always has energy for ten. Which, no matter what time, beech sheds into it. Now that didn’t work. I was so sad.”

The presenter wasn’t the old one in other areas either. In the episode about postpartum sex, Jenk says she doesn’t feel as sexy as in the Instagram photos, but “a bit like Crocs” (the usually unattractive rubber boots, editor). “You can’t stand there after three days with a harmonious, efficient body.”

In the series she talks to people about sex, who was confronted: When Jinek asks what people’s real gender is, they all say penetrative sex.

“This is exactly something that is not easy when you have had a baby. In the Netherlands they say: if you have contraception, you can go back. But then you start building again. Many women also feel the pressure: when can I have penetrative sex again? Others? They start to associate it with pain, and they go downhill when there are many other forms of sex and intimacy.”

It also indicates that things are better organized in the countries around us. “We may well conclude that the Netherlands is quite conservative. It might be a relic of an idea from years ago. I hope this series opens up dialogue between men and women, as well as women themselves.”

“I see the fact that I’m going to work quite a bit as a frame”

Although Jinek feels guilty as a working mother, sometimes she is accused of working too little. Because it’s possible to do a talk show a few months a year and get a big paycheck for the rest of the year? She also saw such comments on social media and ignored them.

“I see it as someone’s frame. At RTL I work more than I did at NPO. I definitely don’t want to complain about it, but I do spend more hours with my own talk show. It starts early in the morning 7.30 and ends late at night.”

Then Johann Dirksen’s commentary is currently playing as well indoors today. He says she was not a college student. After her own talk show aired, Jink was screaming, “We have this Today inside You’re off the air pretty well after all! ”, when his show was stopped for a short time after “The Candle Story”.

She denied telling her colleague Beo van Ervin Dorens last week. She repeated to NU.nl: “I am enjoying my work and I know I can handle what I have said. Part of the game† But now it’s all about things that aren’t true. I can’t defend myself against that.”

‘There was hardly a normal week for a talk show’

When you look back at the two years you are now presenting on RTL4 Jinek, you conclude that there has never been a “normal” talk show week in between. At first the corona was too long and then the war in Ukraine. These are terrible things that you have to deal with on a newspaper talk show, but they are heavy topics.”

“A talk show should be like a magazine: a mixture of all kinds of things and a good vibe. You catch people before they go to sleep and also give them something nice at the end. But since I switched to RTL, current events have a heavy stamp on everything. Fortunately, it was There’s more room for other things lately.”

Meanwhile, Jink is writing a sequel to her book aspire to a lot, Where you want to photograph people again. “Yeah, I do that too, while people think I’m on vacation,” she laughs.

“The great thing about a book like this is that you can talk so intensely and meander with someone, which isn’t possible on a talk show table. I can imagine I’ll be doing long interviews in my next documentary series on Videoland, as in the book.”

By the way, there is still a slot available in the early evening on NPO1, now that the M talk show has been discontinued. Is Jenk interested? “I’m in pretty good shape on RTL.”

Eva’s world can be seen on Videoland from Wednesday.

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